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KadenandKorensMommy
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 1:59 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

Okay, so I'm new at "selling" my cakes, so I tend to undercharge or so I've been told. I did one of those cakes with the pregnant belly on the top, and my SIL's friend saw it and now wants me to make a pregnant belly cake for her, but I don't know how much to charge? I know a lot of people to it by the slice, but that seems like I would get too much money..I recently did a cake for my SIL and only charged $20 because she's family, but I was told later they could have gotten a cake cheaper at the groccery store so I don't want to overcharge..So I'm wondering what would you guys charge for one of those pregnant belly cakes..I've added a pic of my original cake (I hope! lol) to show you what the cake will most likely look like, just different colors..They want the same cake only the cake itself and the fondant dress to be a different color..Ok, I'm done rambling.



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:12 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

You know what I am facing the exact same thing right now....I mean like for a 9x13 with just some roses and happy birthday wrote on it how much do you charge for something like that? Can someone please please please send me their priceing? If it matters what area I am in then I live in Gulfport Ms.
Thanks in advance,
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:14 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

Hi. I completely understand your dilema. I have many of the same problems. But lets face it, if they want to only spend $15-20 on a "store" bought rectangular cake that's their prerogative. If they want a cake that is special and hand made then there is a definite price difference they are going to have to pay.
Making cakes takes ALOT of time and the customeres need to take that into consideration. I would say the majority of people want a memorable special cake for the occasion, though you're always going to have a few that complain about price. I think you're cake is fab. Not to mention that ingredients are $$$ expecially the fondant that is on it. Your time and talent is worth something. I do think price probably depends a lot on location. I live in rural Montana and wouldn't hesitate to charge $50 -75 for that kind of cake. REMEMBER: Your time and obvious talent is worth something! Thumbs Up!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:15 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

I would charge the standard in your area as it really depends on where you live. I would call around to professional bakeries and see what they charge per person for BC, fondant, etc and then figure your time and any extras. Don't let anyone compare your work to the "grocery".......if they say this to you....then let them go to the grocery and you spend that valuable time with your family.....there is no comparison to a customized cake versus a grocery store cake.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:22 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

really? the SAME cake? a sheet cake w/ a belly cake on top???? at a grocery store????

hmm....never seen one any of the stores around me.

rule 1 -- you are NOT in competition w/ the grocery stores. they are MASS merchandisers -- one size fits most. you make CUSTOM, one-of-a-kind cakes -- (tho' I prefer the British term: bespoke)

the comparison -- off the rack dress vs. one custom made and fitted to you and we all know how big $$ custom made is.

if they give you the "but I can get it so much cheaper at ...." fine -- go, get it there! remember you will get what you pay for (and it won't be as fresh, custom crafted w/ love as my cake, nor will match your vision as well as my custom made cake would!)

rule 2 -- do not LOW-ball your price -- it should be near the same as what the stand alone bakeries in your are charge.

rule 3 - set your price and stick to it for everyone -- even family (unless it is your one and ONLY gift in place of any/everything else -- as my niece's wedding cake will be -- the cake and that's it -- no other gift or $$ for her)

rule 4 -- charge by the serving. so if that cake serves 60 and you charge $2/serving, it's a $120 cake.

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and that cake is really TWO cakes -- you've got the sheet cake and the belly cake on top of it. charge for both! -- see rule 4 above.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:24 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

I can't tell the size of your sheet cake that the belly is on. But for sheet cakes I charge:

9x13 $35
11x15 $45
12x18 $65

When you add something special like the belly cake I would charge an additonal $20-25. Remember, it's a lot of time you put into cakes. The ingredients are usually minimal in cost. Don't sell yourself short, even to family. I always charge my family the same as I would anyone else. Yes, I love my family, but I have to pay bills too.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:26 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

I wonder if they could have gotten such an awesome cake at the grocery store for cheaper.....I mean c'mon. You're not a mass producer, you're a specialist! Charge accordingly. I live in a rural town with less than 10,000. for b/c only, I charge $2.25/ serving and for fondant I charge $3.25. If they want a spciality cake, they will pay. if it doesn't matter, let them go to the grocery store.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:26 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

Wow for the third time today.......here's pricing-lol.

There is not an easy answer for pricing cakes here especially since different parts of the country charge differently and before the crash we had loads and loads of threads on this subject. Also, I do not turn my oven on for that small and cheap cakes! Also I am stating the cakes as a 1 in. x 2 in.

There are programs out there that takes your cost of the recipe ingredients, plus box and board plus the energy of turning on your oven and price out the cake per recipe. You might want to start by figuring out that cost, then the rule of thumb is to times that cost by 3 for your labor.

I would also see the types of cake your competition has in your area and what they charge so your price accordingly.

After averaging in all that you can get a feel for the cost per slice depending on your design.

I have a minimum and I'm also in a metro area and charge anywhere from $3.50 per slice for plan 'ol BC without any fancy dancy decoration to $5 for fondant. Then I add additional costs for gumpaste bouquets, extension, lace points etc. If it is a carved cake then I charge for the cake not the slice and have preworked out my designs and the timing and cost of ingredients and charge accordingly. BTW wedding and sheet. Both are equal in my eyes.

And remember, that you make custom cakes and not cheap cakes and depending upon your talent level you can charge more for customizing.

HTH
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:55 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

I keep seeing this question come up today, so here are my lengthy thoughts on pricing. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 3:20 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

thats great advice kelleym!

Just because they can get a cheaper cake at a grocery store does not mean that you should charge that much. Some things to think about...

You should not be paying for their cake! Be sure to charge at least enough to cover all you costs, ingredients, gas to the store, gas for delivery, electricity, cake boards etc etc

your time is worth something! we all love baking here (well most of us anyway Razz ) but wouldn't you rather spend time with your family? or enjoying the fruits of your own labour?

its OK to say no. let them eat cr@ppy frozen decorated by machine cake and save your talents for those that appreciate them.

set your limits right from the start, its great that you are figuring out what to charge now! stick to it, make family pay before they receive the cake or chances are good you will never see the $$$$, funny how those things just seem to slip the mind!

happy decorating!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 3:34 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

Amen, dinas27! Amazing how family and sadly some friends can "forget" to pay you. I've just got to redo my price list with the increases or I'm not going to make anything this spring!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 3:37 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

Thank you everyone. And my SIL had no problem paying for the cake...They thought I shortcharged them as well, but they are helping to put my name out there, and it was my first cake charging...

I'm about to go look at your link kellym...I apprecaite all the responses, thank you !!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 3:42 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

Thank you for the link!! I'm going to beg my hubby to buy me the software now!!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 3:46 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

First .....
what Doug said. All of it. Every word.

Second .....
KadenandKorensMommy wrote:
I know a lot of people to it by the slice, but that seems like I would get too much money..
Huh???? Confused
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 3:47 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

I use to have this problem...."what should I charge...?" I finally bought the Cake Boss program and now it does it all for me!! I HIGHLY recommend this program to ANYONE who sells cakes, no matter how many you sell in a year...this program does it all for you!
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