There may be a Wilton job opening up near me a few towns away. I'm only in course 2, but it will open up just as I'm finishing course 3. I'm not sure whether to apply or not. Do you get additional training on the Wilton way of teaching? How much are you paid?
Katie
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Location: Mesa, AZ
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Sat May 03, 2008 10:36 pm
It doesn't pay enough to pay the bills, if that's what you're wondering. It's roughly $130-$150 ish per class depending on how many students you have. I dont have the pay chart on me so I cant give specifics.
You do get DVDs and training books. Wilton also has training seminars throughout the year you can attend.
So far I've really liked it! I only had one student for my Course I, but we had a lot of fun and it was a good start for me. I'm doing Course I again for May, and then will move on to doing cookie bouquet and candy making classes.
Do you get paid regardless of how many students you have?
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Sat May 03, 2008 11:12 pm
Yep, as long as you have one student, you get paid for the full amount. Wilton scales the pay, so the more students you have, the more you make. But by scaling it they still make it worth your time to teach small classes.
Personally I like classes that are 6 students or less. You can give more personal attention that way.
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Sun May 04, 2008 5:11 am
<...Do you get paid regardless of how many students you have?...>
<...as long as you have one student, you get paid for the full amount...>
It depends on you, the store and the mgr.
I made a good amount by teaching day and night classes; keeping each class to a max of 10 students. If more then we split the class into 2 (more $$
According to Wilton your pay should be based on how many people show up on the 1st night of any set of 4 classes. So if you start w/10 and by class 3 there are 6 you still get paid for the 10 who started. Still it depends on the store manager. I have had some mgrs say you must have a mim of 6 students in EACH weekly class and refused to pay me!
Um yeah, it depends on the store. I am guessing you work for Michaels? They are one of the better stores to work for in my opinion.
I was offered a job from Joanne Fabrics and I turned it down. They hadn't run a course in months b/c they required 6 people and never got enough people. They couldn't keep instructors b/c of this. Their classroom was also super tiny and I wondered how they were even going to fit 6 people in their classroom.
The more people who sign up for classes, the more money you make. Well, I asked Joanne's how they would even fit 10 people in their class if I were to drum up interest and they couldn't answer that for me. I also asked them to move classes onto the store floor (and not in the back) and they weren't willing to do that. They only do that for their sewing classes!
So, ask many questions! Another reason why I didn't go with Joanne's was b/c they required weekend demos from time to time and you don't get paid for them. Well, forget that! Why would I work and not get paid? They said it was to get interest in the class, but Michael's pays their employees for weekend work so I just didn't agree with Joanne's when it came to that. Needless to say, I turned down the job.
Yes, Wilton offers seminars but the closest one to me was 3 hours away. With the cost of gas, the cost of a hotel, the seminar, etc. forget it. You won't make a ton with being an instructor (plus you have to buy your own supplies to buy when teaching - fondant, etc. ) that I just didn't think it was worth it.
Um yeah, it depends on the store. I am guessing Cee Tee, you work for Michaels? They are one of the better stores to work for in my opinion.
I was offered a job from Joanne Fabrics and I turned it down. They hadn't run a course in months b/c they required 6 people and never got enough people. They couldn't keep instructors b/c of this. Their classroom was also super tiny and I wondered how they were even going to fit 6 people in their classroom.
The more people who sign up for classes, the more money you make. Well, I asked Joanne's how they would even fit 10 people in their class if I were to drum up interest and they couldn't answer that for me. I also asked them to move classes onto the store floor (and not in the back) and they weren't willing to do that. They only do that for their sewing classes!
So, ask many questions! Another reason why I didn't go with Joanne's was b/c they required weekend demos from time to time and you don't get paid for them. Well, forget that! Why would I work and not get paid? They said it was to get interest in the class, but Michael's pays their employees for weekend work so I just didn't agree with Joanne's when it came to that. Needless to say, I turned down the job.
Yes, Wilton offers seminars but the closest one to me was 3 hours away. With the cost of gas, the cost of a hotel, the seminar, etc. forget it. You won't make a ton with being an instructor (plus you have your own supplies to buy when teaching - fondant, etc. ) that I just didn't think it was worth it.
Best of luck with whatever you decide.
Tiababe Junior Member
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Sun May 04, 2008 6:19 am
I'm not an instructor but I did take a class at Michaels. I got the feeling that my instructor could earn some extra cash if we purchased Wilton products. If we made a purchase, we showed the clerk our registration form and got 10% off. It has been over a year since I took the first class, and I wish I could remember what she said that made me draw the conclusion that she benefitted from our purchases. Anyway, just something to ask about if you interview for the job. Goodness knows, I made enough purchases during those four weeks to put some CHA-CHING in somebody else's pockets!!!!
I'm not an instructor but I did take a class at Michaels. I got the feeling that my instructor could earn some extra cash if we purchased Wilton products. If we made a purchase, we showed the clerk our registration form and got 10% off. It has been over a year since I took the first class, and I wish I could remember what she said that made me draw the conclusion that she benefitted from our purchases. Anyway, just something to ask about if you interview for the job. Goodness knows, I made enough purchases during those four weeks to put some CHA-CHING in somebody else's pockets!!!!
At JoAnns I do NOT make anything off what the students purchace
I don't know about Michaels
saberger Regular Member
Joined: Jan 01, 2007
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Location: Randolph,NJ
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Sun May 04, 2008 6:34 am
It does depend on the store, for sure. Michaels is MUCH better. AC Moore requires a minimum of 3 students and I only taught 2 classes there in the past year! Now I am at Michaels and it is better. They get products 1st, you actually get PAID for making your displays, for demos (got gift certificates at AC Moore), etc.
Tiababe - We don't get anything if students buy Wilton products (no commission or anything) - it benefits the store, not the instructor. -
Instructors get a discount through Wilton for products and the school. We get the training videos and if they offer a new course, then we would get trained for free. The pay scale is okay, depends on the # of students. Otherwise, it is just fun and a great way to get out of the house of you have kids (WHOO-HOO!!!) Hope that helps and answers some questions.
saberger Regular Member
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Sun May 04, 2008 6:40 am
Keltokel, every store (or Wilton) pays for demos. AC Moore didn't pay for demos (esp. not like Michals does), but I got paid through Wilton. It is my understanding that some stores ask people to do them (or tell them) and some employees HAVE done it for free, but it is NOT required. Actually it is discouraged because when new instructors start at a store and the previous one did freebies, then it makes it hard for the new one to say no. Make sense?! So NEVER do them for free!!!
Keltokel, every store (or Wilton) pays for demos. AC Moore didn't pay for demos (esp. not like Michals does), but I got paid through Wilton. It is my understanding that some stores ask people to do them (or tell them) and some employees HAVE done it for free, but it is NOT required. Actually it is discouraged because when new instructors start at a store and the previous one did freebies, then it makes it hard for the new one to say no. Make sense?! So NEVER do them for free!!!
Oh yes, it is coming back to me now. I would have been considered an independent contractor at Joanne's. I didn't have to do demos, but they were important in order to get people to take the classes. However, it mas made clear to me that I would not be paid for the demos since they were optional. It was a catch 22 in my opinion - do the demos on a Sat, and don't get paid, but hopefully get some students in your next classes.
This was last year that I was offered the job. Things may have changed a bit since them. But I know for sure I would not have been paid for Sat./demo work.
I posted a similar topic last year when I was contemplating the job at Joanne's. You might want to check it out - many people said that Michael's in the best to work for.
Thanks everybody. I filled out an application. Of course, I'm only in Wilton course two, lol... so not really experienced enough yet. However they do need instructors in a couple of towns near me so I figured "what the heck". We'll see if anything comes of it.
Katie
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Location: Mesa, AZ
Posted:
Sun May 04, 2008 9:30 am
KeltoKel wrote:
Um yeah, it depends on the store. I am guessing Cee Tee, you work for Michaels? They are one of the better stores to work for in my opinion.
Yep, I work for the Michael's where I took my classes at. I guess I am lucky. They let us run classes no matter how many sign up. They think its better to treat the customers well than herd them up to make more money.
As for promotion Wilton products in the class....well, to be frank, that's what the classes are all about. Wilton wants you to buy their stuff. It's business. I don't mind putting a bit of hard sell on their stuff cause I genuinely like their product. But I'm also honest about which are the good buys and which are not worth it ( the fondant!! *eek* )
Tho that's really odd about Joann's not paying you for demo time. When I used to teach at Joann's long long ago (I taught various kids projects and comic drawing then, not Wilton) I was paid for my time. They also gave me the supplies to make my demo board for the front of the store. Again, that may come down to the individual store. But either way, Wilton pays $40 for two hour demos independent, no matter which store you work for. At least that's what I understand.
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Wilton scales the pay, so the more students you have, the more you make. But by scaling it they still make it worth your time to teach small classes.
