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woodthi32
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:17 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

summernoelle wrote:
One more question-letter (with all the emails, and a serving chart included), email, or phone call? I am seriously soft-spined and will fold under pressure, so I don't want to call!

a snail mail with return receipt requested. She has to sign to acknowledge she received it. It let's ppl know you mean business and you don't screw around. Among the contents, include the copies of any emails regarding price and delivery time.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:37 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

Consider this a lesson learned . . . actually, more than one lesson:

- When giving multiple quotes, make sure that you and the customer are on the same page as far as size, price, etc. before you even heat up your oven. Give them a cutting chart so they can see what a serving size looks like. They may decide on a larger cake. Or work your way backward. Ask for their budget and show them what you can make for that price.

- If you've had an unhappy customer in the past, it might be wise to create a form that customers sign when the cake is delivered stating that they received what they ordered and they're pleased.

- If your customer requests a design that you don't like, offer alternate designs. I was recently asked to make an UGLY baby shower cake. I didn't want my name associated with that train wreck, so I showed the customer lots of other options. She finally said, "I've seen your work. I trust you. Make what you want." She was so pleased she's still showing pictures of the cake to people. I've gotten 3 referrals from her doing so. Thumbs Up!

- When you ask for honest opinions in a public forum - you're bound to get some people that see things differently than you do.

Okay . . . stepping down off my soap box . . . putting down the fistfull of Halloween candy . . . warming up my oven . . . I've got cupcakes to bake! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:45 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

Jocmom wrote:
. . . putting down the fistfull of Halloween candy . . . warming up my oven . . . I've got cupcakes to bake! Very Happy


Cupcakes??? I'm coming to YOUR house!!!

TRICK OR TREAT!!!! Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 7:29 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

Yep . . . cupcakes! I made spice cupcakes. Jell-o came out with a pumpkin-spice flavor pudding, so I mixed that with milk and Cool Whip for "frosting." I'm taking them into work tomorrow for my coworkers.

Hey . . . if I can't lose weight, they all gotta gain some. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 7:35 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

OK now I'm a bit peeved.....Jello had that pudding flavor LAST fall too, and I could never find any around here. Now they have it again, and I STILL can't find it. Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 7:50 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

I know you already made a decision by now, but I just wanted to say that it took alot of hard work to make that cake. The city scape was huge and I dont know where you get a cake with that amount of work for that price. You make beautiful cakes but in life there are always whiners.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:08 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

Okay, these are the kind of posts that scare me to death. I used to work with the public (was a hairdresser and court clerk) and I know how rotten and nasty some people can be. I am trying to decide if I want to start a small cake business again (had one years ago but quit it). And now you all are reminding me the heartaches and headaches that come with dealing with these knuckleheads. I can't decide if it's worth it. Things that make you go hmmmmmm..... Mad
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:48 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

Cakedesigner...Don't let the horror stories scare you off.

Of course there are customers out there that are a pain, but the vast majority aren't. Honestly, I haven't ever had to deal with a customer who was anything close to what the op here had to deal with...hopefully never will!

I truly believe 99% of the problems can be avoided by being meticulous with the details and doing a good job of spelling out to the customer exactly what they will be getting and what it's costing them. Sometimes we take for granted that the customer is as informed about cakes as we are!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:00 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

Ok, I read the entire post and checked out the photo gallery of the OP - nowhere did I find the cake with the characters the client added. What am I missing? This seems to be a big part of the issue...can someone direct me to the pic after the figures were put on the cake? TIA
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:27 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

it is the red and black cake...red cake with a cartoon style cityscape. I believe the spiders were the added part.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:56 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

Sounds like that gal was a heffer and cut pieces that were huge...and newsflash, gluttony and lack of portion control doesn't equate to a refund!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:26 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

justme50 wrote:

I truly believe 99% of the problems can be avoided by being meticulous with the details and doing a good job of spelling out to the customer exactly what they will be getting and what it's costing them. Sometimes we take for granted that the customer is as informed about cakes as we are!


I could not agree more. Now that I have my own shop I have adopted that very same mind set and am proud to say that I have not had a single issue. I have a very explicit contract. I go over the details with my clients and make them sign off. I then give them their signed copy of the contract. It works like a charm. I think that sometimes, and I am not sure that is the case here but in my experiences I have found that just because something makes perfect sense to me does not mean it makes perfect sense to the other person.
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