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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 6:27 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

JanH wrote:
Babarooskie wrote:

You can have a website, but it must be like a "blog". That's how mine is. I separate it with tabs to categorize it into cakes, cupcakes, etc. DO NOT INCLUDE PRICING. I network solely on word of mouth and Myspace. Even then, my myspace profile is just pictures of my cakes with flavors I have done/can do.

If someone confronts me about it, I say they only pay me for the ingrediants that I SHOP for them. Then I tell my "clients" that I am not legal, but they never seem to mind since the "charge of ingredients" is cheaper than other cake designers.

Again, I network solely through word of mouth and myspace.

I don't see anything wrong with that...just my .2 cents.


Having worked in law enforcement (and keeping up with the news, etc.) I have seen your arguement used as justification for crimes ranging from prostitution, and drug trafficking, to the employment of undocumented workers as well as an affirmative defense by drunk drivers.

Prostitution rings commonly advertise (misrepresenting their true nature) as either escort services, personal consultants or message parlors, etc., and their customers are willing participants.

Drug houses also only advertise by word of mouth (or using code/symbols in RAVE advertisements) and their customers don't care that their suppliers are illegal.

Undocumented workers never advertise, but their employers are complicit in their illegal employment.

Drunk drivers also never feel they've done anything wrong, and aren't made public until their behaviour is reported in the news (usually as the cause of a fatal accident).

All of the above would agree with your arguement, "I don't see anything wrong with that."

It is interesting to note that the famous rackateer, Al Capone, who listed his occupation as used furniture sales was not convicted of murder or bootlegging. No, he was convicted and sent to prison for tax evasion.



JanH wrote:
loriana wrote:

Can we like....keep it light? This is a cake forum!! .... I mean LIVE AND LET LIVE and let's stop judging people. Sheesh! If we all went around quoting the law as "dispassionate observer and recorder of facts" we would all be tattle-tales like 6 year olds. Let's grow up peoples!


I have not said anything that is not true.

I have not engaged in any campaign to help or thwart either the legal or illegal bakers.

I have voiced no moral judgements or attempted to harass any members.

Appears when reason and logic cannot be refuted in an irrational/invalid arguement you switch your approach to repeat over and over again self-serving emotionally charged platitudes....and belittling childish insults.

Adult behaviour would entail assuming responsibility for our actions.

(It would be my personal opinion that you have a bias toward the illegal bakers, or else you wouldn't feel the need to attack me personally rather than address the logic (or lack thereof) in Barbarooskie's post.)



Moral judgments and personal biases are revealed in every comparison we make.

If you compare your new boss to Jack the Ripper you are telling the world how much you despise or fear the man. If you compare your new boss to Gandhi or Brad Pitt you are projecting a totally different vibe.

If you compare illegal bakers to prostitutes, drug traffickers and drunk drivers you are expressing one view; if you compare non-licensed bakers to jaywalkers you are expressing a different view all together.

Even word choice expresses an opinion or judgment. Do you use the term “illegal baker” or “non-licensed” baker? It is a clear indication of which side of the fence you are on.

So be aware of the comparisons and word choices you make, it reveals more about your opinions, judgment and attitudes than you think.

Carol


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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 9:23 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

loriana wrote:

I agree! Sheesh! Can we like....keep it light? This is a cake forum!! .... I mean LIVE AND LET LIVE and let's stop judging people. Sheesh! If we all went around quoting the law as "dispassionate observer and recorder of facts" we would all be tattle-tales like 6 year olds. Let's grow up peoples!

Someone eat some chocolate, quick now! It is a mood lifter, you know? Shocked


Oh please. JanH is a very helpful and caring member. Get over yourself.
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 9:43 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

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I feel enough has been said in regard to this topic. It has gotten WAY off what the original topic was about and gone in a direction I feel is no longer positive in any aspect. I have now locked this thread.
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