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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:31 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

As a scratch baker I have experimented with many recipes. Could you please give me a GOOD Thumbs Up! scratch cake recipe that you use often? I would prefer basic butter/yellow cake and white cake recipes. Thanks Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:47 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

Here's a good thread to take a look at:

http://www.cakecentral.com/cak.....tml+recipe

Most of it should be there but I think some of it was lost due to the Post Crash of 2008.

There's a lot of good ones there!
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:48 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

Sad Oh dear, so sorry as that is the one thing I don't share as I also enter baking competitions and they are my Grandmothers tweaked recipes.

But here is a bump to get the thread moving for you. Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:01 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

I love the yellow and white recipes from the Cake Bible and the Cake Book as well as Alton Brown's yellow cake recipe. I use them all the time and get rave reviews everytime. I do like to use a little simple syrup on all my cakes since scratch is more dense than box. I do this with different liquers or flavors or anything else that strikes me. Hope that helps!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:55 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

I like the ones in Cake Decorating for Dummies. Their yellow one and their chocolate one are both good. So is their italian chocolate wedding cake (which involves the chocolate cake) buttercream and ganache. Good luck.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:46 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

I'm not usually the whiney type, but as a scratch baker AND someone who doctors cake mixes, I tend to get a little irritated at the tone I've seen SEVERAL times on this board about "Scratch bakers ONLY" as if there is something better about them. My customers adore my doctored cake mixes as much as they love my scratch recipes. Whatever I use, I only use tried and true recipes that make people say "YUM", whichever type it may be.

The title of this thread could easily be "Looking for delicious scratch yellow cake" or something.

I'm sorry if I sound petty, its just that I see this type of title alot: "Scratch bakers ONLY" around here and its starting to get annoying. Some of us do both, and a few years ago I was only doing mixes....we are all in different stages of learning and decorating and its really not fair to get some kind of snooty attitude about people who use cake mixes.

Ya know? I'm still smiling....hope I don't get blasted for this...but its just something I've seen off and on for several months now so I decided to step out and say something.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 9:08 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

I totally agree with tiptop and kitagirl. I don't mind sharing a doctored recipe but my scratch recipes are my own due to research, time and development and I'm not about to hand them over just cos someone asks.

If you want a good yellow recipe I suggest you do what a lot of us do, internet search and trial and error.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 9:15 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

Kitagrl wrote:


I'm sorry if I sound petty, its just that I see this type of title alot: "Scratch bakers ONLY" around here and its starting to get annoying. Some of us do both, and a few years ago I was only doing mixes....we are all in different stages of learning and decorating and its really not fair to get some kind of snooty attitude about people who use cake mixes.

Ya know? I'm still smiling....hope I don't get blasted for this...but its just something I've seen off and on for several months now so I decided to step out and say something.


i don't think its implying that scratch baking is better. its just that when you have a question about scratch baking, you want the opinion of people who have experience doing it! i'm sure you know that scratch baking is a whole other ball park than using a mix, and if you don't bake from scratch then you won't know all the ins and outs. for example, i posted a question about baking scratch cakes on wednesday for sat events. i wanted the opinion of people who have done it with scratch cakes, not mixes due to the lack of preservatives. the majority of responses i got were from mix users telling me to freeze my cakes. Sad i got a little frustrated since that was clearly not the answer to my question!!

am i even making sense or am i just rambling now? lol. anyway, i wouldn't get upset, people are just looking for advice from those with the experience in baking from scratch. i'd guess that almost all of us started out using mixes (me included).
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 9:29 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

Hm. I freeze my scratch cakes! They turn out just as nice if not better, just like the mixes. But that's beside the point...

I'm just talking about the undercurrent of an attitude I've detected and I guess tonight I just got fed up. Technically, there's really no harm in your thread attracting a "mix baker"? All you have to do is smile and nod a "thanks", really, instead of saying "Oh...I only want to talk to a SCRATCH baker." I'm exaggerating of course, just to make the point. Smile

I mean...what if I started out a thread "For people who know how to make 3D cakes ONLY". That would send the idea that only people who can do carved 3D work are important enough to read my thread. Why couldn't I just put "Question about 3D cake". That leaves the thread open to anyone who wants to reply...and whether or not the replies are actually helpful to me technically does not matter, because some of them will be helpful.

Am I just rambling nonsense, or...? I feel like I am. I should be in bed. LOL.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 9:45 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

Kitagrl wrote:

I mean...what if I started out a thread "For people who know how to make 3D cakes ONLY". Why couldn't I just put "Question about 3D cake".


i guess i just see both of those post titles as being equal. i wouldn't see anything wrong with someone posting it either wayl


Kitagrl wrote:
Hm. I freeze my scratch cakes! They turn out just as nice if not better, just like the mixes. But that's beside the point...


as i stated on the other thread, brides in this area are very prejudiced against frozen cakes. i personally see nothing wrong with it, but the brides do. i'm not willing to fight that battle and i'm not willing to lie to them. so i am adamant about not freezing. it has nothing to do with taste, its just marketability.

and i will say, freezing cakes DOES make them more dense, and when you bake from scratch you're cakes are already more dense than most people are used to. so there IS a textural difference that i find quite distinct. but this is off topic.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 11:18 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

I don't have any recipes I can give you either, most of them are still marked " under construction." I started trying my hand at it a while back when I had a lot of people asking me "Is this scratch?" I felt a little like you did kitagirl. More than a few were critical people in the story of my life. Then I realized I wanted to come up with my own recipes so that my cakes would be "all" mine. It feels good when it goes right and the flower beds get extra nutrients when it doesn't. (Can roses get fat?) Its fun either way. Good luck. And keep trying. : )[/i]
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 11:47 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

tiptop57 wrote:
Sad Oh dear, so sorry as that is the one thing I don't share as I also enter baking competitions and they are my Grandmothers tweaked recipes.

But here is a bump to get the thread moving for you. Laughing


LOL..this reminds me of an episode of the Desperate Housewives..when Bree's new neighbour won't share her recipe!( I think it was for pie) The Bree tires to break into her house to get it! Watch it tiptop57 i might be lurking in your bushes! Hahaha!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 11:57 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

I LOVE cooking scratch cakes, I guess mostly because it's how my mum used to do it. I rarely use box mixes, I have tried doctoring some, but to me it just seemed easier to do it from the start, atleast I know what's going into it.
epicurious . com have some amazing cakes, like chocolate stout and a beautiful spice cake and all have written reviews.

I have no problem giving you my favourite cake vanilla cake Smile
Trial and error can take ages, so I understand why you'd be looking for other people's favourites.
It's actually the Magnolia Bakery cupcake batter, but I love it for either cupcakes or cakes. It's quick and easy. I could eat the batter with a spoon.. YUM!


Note: If you would like to make a layer cake instead of cupcakes, divide the batter between two 9-inch round cake pans and bake the layers for 30-40 minutes.


RECIPE
* 1 1/2 cups self-rising flour
* 1 1/4 cups all-purpose flour
* 1 cup (2 sticks) unsalted butter, softened
* 2 cups sugar
* 4 large eggs, at room temperature
* 1 cup milk
* 1 teaspoon vanilla extract


In a large bowl, on the medium speed of an electric mixer, cream the butter until smooth. Add the sugar gradually and beat until fluffy, about 3 minutes. Add the eggs, one at a time, beating well after each addition. Add the dry ingredients in three parts, alternating with the milk and vanilla. With each addition, beat until the ingredients are incorporated but do not overbeat. Using a rubber spatula, scrape down the batter in the bowl to make sure the ingredients are well blended. Carefully spoon the batter into the cupcake liners, filling them about three-quarters full. Bake for 20–25 minutes, or until a cake tester inserted in the center of the cupcake comes out clean.
Cool the cupcakes in the tins for 15 minutes. Remove from the tins and cool completely on a wire rack before icing.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 6:10 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

Yep some websites have some great rated cakes!

True, about the density....

And also true that some people have something against freezing and nonscratch... I had a lady raving about her 3D cake and then started asking questions....when she found out (by point blank asking questions) about the freezing and that one of the flavors was doctored cake mix (I use only tried and true consistencies for 3D work, I have a nice dense scratch chocolate but not a vanilla I like yet) you could just see her trying to have a poker face about both issues. She was still smiling and friendly yet I saw her eyes were slightly startled. I use freezing as a way to make the cakes better, most people do see it as something lazy or non-fresh. And truly, people LOVE my doctored mixes, but they don't know that's what they are...and I hope they do not ask.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 5:28 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

A little humor:

Haven't people heard of ICE CREAM CAKE which is kept frozen Surprised Laughing

On the serious side;

Our FatFace was simply asking the scratch bakers for the answer to her/his question since they would have more knowledge using scratch with no negativity aimed towards us "box users" Wink .

Thumbs Up!
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