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mandygirlxoxo
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:56 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

is it cheating if you use box cakes for wedding cakes?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 11:02 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

Do you mean using boxed cake mix when making the cake?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 11:03 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

KathysCC wrote:
Do you mean using boxed cake mix when making the cake?
yea
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NO
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Why not save yourself a little trouble.I prepare the mix as it says on the box then I add 1/2 cup sour cream, 1 extra egg, and a 3 oz. box of pudding mix that is the same flavor as the cake. Vanilla pudding for white, chocolate for chocolate, etc. They are really good. I learned that simple trick from a bakery owner that my instructor knows.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 11:16 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

I think you will be getting a slew of people saying most bakeries use mixes so of course it's not cheating. I personally use both Dr'd mixes and totally non-cake box recipes, depending upon the type of cake.

As far as I am concerned, when I make a delicious and moist cake that everyone loves, whether or not a cake mix was used is irrelevent. Smile
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Amen!
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Yup! What CakeDiva said!!! Thumbs Up!
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You could use this reciepes. White almond sour cream.
http://www.recipezaar.com/69630
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 5:42 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

kimmypooh79 wrote:
Why not save yourself a little trouble.I prepare the mix as it says on the box then I add 1/2 cup sour cream, 1 extra egg, and a 3 oz. box of pudding mix that is the same flavor as the cake. Vanilla pudding for white, chocolate for chocolate, etc. They are really good. I learned that simple trick from a bakery owner that my instructor knows.


ME TOO! Try using white cake mix with WHITE CHOCOLATE pudding mix and white chocolate icing! YUM-MY!

BUT, be very careful, don't use cake mixes with pudding already added. It gets sticky and has a gooey layer that forms. HMMMMM, wonder how I would know that? LOL

Beth in KY
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:50 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

mandygirlxoxo wrote:
is it cheating if you use box cakes for wedding cakes?


No.

Is it "cheating" to use a mold to make cake decorations instead of making them "from scratch"?

Is it "cheating" to use the various presses for words, scrolls, dot patterns, etc., instead of doing them "by hand"?

Is it cheating to buy the cake drums instead of wrapping your own foam boards or cardboards to make the drums "from scratch"?

Scratch or mix, neither way is right or wrong ... it lies in what your talent is. Baking a good tasting cake from scratch takes a very high level of talent to get it right all the time, and those folks have my admiration.

To use the word "cheating" implies something underhanded and almost illegal to do .... THAT'S that part that bothers ME.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:53 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

i always use box mixes... but never the ingredients or instructions on the box. here's the recipe i use (and i juse the cake mixes w/pudding added and have never had a gummy issue)

1 box cake mix (any flavor)
1 box pudding mix (4 serving size - same or complimentary flavor to cake mix)
1 c. sour cream
1/2 cup water or milk
1/2 cup oil
4 eggs

i use homemade pan release, i bake all my cakes at 325*, use flower nail(s) as heat core and homemade bake even strips. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:18 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

There was a hot topic around here recently about this issue and probably always will be a hot topic for discussion. But mostly that's what you have to realize, it is a controversial subject.

If you want to dedicate yourself to re-educate the world and eradicate the planet from sucha rock rib discrimination that says scratch cake is dry and mix cake is poo then you are a better caker than I ever will be.

People will say oh just tell all, oh it's ok oh oh oh -oh guess what? This is a controversy whether you want to admit or not. If you are going to run a business you have to be very aware of how you will handle this.

The first time I met this monster and was 'profiled' years ago I had just moved and my mixer was packed. I did a tier cake for a couple hundred people BY HAND. Some person asked me what kind of cake, scratch or mix. That his mom makes the best cake in the world and bladeeeblabla. I was fuming inside.

So just be prepared with how you want to respond to people who want to compare you and pigeon hole you one way or the other. You can declare yourself one way, the other or the middle and risk alienating some folks. You hold your head up high square your shoulders and can use healthy ephemisms. I mean some folks say "I bake cake mix" and people steadfastly do not believe them so...it's cazy huh?

You of course have to be real with people for legal purposes, but that again has to be filtered through the bs strainer.

Take Care, Cake-Buddy
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:44 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

I have to add, I have read all the post before about this very topic and I never added my comments about what is better because to each his own, and I bake from scratch and mostly with box mixes, but I have always felt the need to learn more about baking cakes from scratch, don't get me wrong, I can bake a mean mouth watering bread that begs for a slab of butter right out the oven, and all types at that. But (and this is my opinion only) I feel I can't call myself a proper chef if I can't whip up a from scratch cake, and it come out fantastic everytime. I taught myself how to decorate why not learn more about the science of baking cake? So I am taking a course this year to learm more about pastries and cakes.

But no, it is not cheating, unless you are buying the cake already baked and decorated and say it is your own... wait Duff does that, just kidding I love Duff, just would like to see him decorate more.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:51 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

Heres the thing-it matters what your clients like. If the LOVE you box recipes, then use them! You can't argue with what they like better, and lots of people will prefer the boxes over scratch.
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